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Jeff Waggoner's avatar

I came to Mussar partly through Aristotle, and one of the things that resonated with me was how much the two traditions share — including, I'd argue, on this very point. Aristotelian ethics isn't built on a "virtues good/vices bad" binary. It's built on the mean. Aristotle doesn't condemn envy outright; what matters is whether it's proportionate. Pride (megalopsychia, great-souledness) is a virtue for Aristotle, and its deficiency — false humility, undervaluing oneself — is the vice. Excessive generosity (asōtia, prodigality) is identified as a vice in the Nicomachean Ethics, Book IV, Chapter 1. Aristotle has a name for every excess and every deficiency. In that sense, the calibration insight you place in Mussar is also present in Aristotle — which may be part of why the two traditions feel so agreeable to me.

Where I think you're on genuinely strong ground is the question of telos. Flourishing is as far as a university program can reach, because holiness isn't a measurable outcome.

Robbie Glantz's avatar

I so enjoy your posts and the questions you pose. I also enjoy reading the other posts. If it is appropriate I would like to ask if holiness can be measured…Certainly in Mussar we want to keep a tally so to speak about our path… Does this extend to holiness.

Alan of course you only see life through a Mussar lens. It is who you are!

Regarding the two approaches to character development, I wonder if despite differing goals can the WFU “program” (as opposed to a way of life) be a precursor to going deeper on the journey of the soul. I believe when we act virtuous it feels good and perhaps the students at WFU are recognizing that virtuous character development leave them to want more.

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